Now he is trying to achieve the museum's “go to Ma Weidu†by establishing a board structure and a foundation system.
HBRC: In 2004, you promoted the museum to a council system, and later established the Guanfu Cultural Foundation. How do you see this shift from an independent civil collector to an institutional manager?
Ma Weidu: I may have the ability to manage people. For example, I was originally in the hippocampus studio, when there were nearly forty writers at the peak. Liu Zhenyun, Mo Yan, Hai Yan, the famous writers you know are almost all inside. At that time, I was the Secretary-General, and I was in charge of everyone, and I had to communicate with everyone in no particular way.
I think the most important skill I need to manage these "people's tops" is tolerance. Because China is a very unruly society. Institutionalized things can only be implemented in two situations: one is under power and the other is high-profit. When neither of these situations exists, it depends on culture. China's culture is very inclusive. People from different places are under the same blue sky of culture. This is very different from the United States. The cultural differences between the United States and the system require a system to speak.
HBRC: The National Museum has strong financial subsidies and policy support. How do you set up China's first private museum by yourself?
Ma Weidu: In China, the success of many things must have gone through the extremes of things and then can be achieved. All things must go to extremes to show its drawbacks, and the Chinese will not change in the middle. You see that the location of the museum is so remote, the ticket is 50 yuan, and the price is similar to watching a movie in the city. If there are people who are willing to come, it will prove that there is a good demand. Private museums are theoretically non-commercial, but corporate tax laws do not matter. The National Museum is free, which means that Hollywood blockbusters are free. If I want to get a good box office if I want to make a small film, then I must make a good film.
HBRC: How to reconcile Chinese culture with the imported council system?
Ma Weidu: Now the members of the board of directors are all Chinese who have been educated in the West, but no matter what they are in the West, as long as they have been mixed in China for more than five years, he will be back, or else they will hit the wall. I feel that it is difficult for our culture to adapt to the Western rational culture. At least it is very difficult in the short term. Chinese people pay attention to emotional communication. If you talk to him about the system as soon as you come up, then you will die. In China, it is absolutely impossible to use the Western one as soon as it comes up. Although there is a system, it is still largely dependent on human feelings. In the setting of the system, it must not be contrary to culture. If the system and culture conflict, the system must die and the culture will not die.
HBRC: From literature to collection, you always come together to work together in the field of "people". How do you tap these excellent collaborators?
Ma Weidu: The most important quality of these people is the judgment of the society. With this, all his arrogance is acceptable. The person who makes the investment, the tall person who stands, can judge who is accidentally successful and who is inevitably successful. Some people are beaten up, some people are inevitably successful, and he can succeed in changing things.
Nowadays, I see all kinds of magazines are acquaintances. I know a lot of people in the business world. It is very interesting to listen to his judgment. Also do all the things you like, you can stick to it. For example, if I am a museum, I just like it. If I want to make money, I don't have to do it. The same is true of the people I choose the museum council. You don't necessarily have to look at money like dirt, but you don't expect this to make money. You don't need to love collections, I don't have a professional background. Other backgrounds that are willing to do things are not important. You can think of life and life will be very happy.
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